tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post111166896713615705..comments2023-11-02T07:25:45.884-05:00Comments on Mormanity - a blog for those interested in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints: These Things Are Not Without Precedent....Jeff Lindsayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08776493593387402607noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-1111847524739794752005-03-26T08:32:00.000-06:002005-03-26T08:32:00.000-06:00Of course, many people who reluctantly accept the ...Of course, many people who reluctantly accept the notion that the courts have acted with due process and according to high and noble principles of established law believe so, IN MY OPINION, as a result of not having been exposed to the clear and convincing evidence that the courts have grossly misbehaved in this matter, acting in violation of basic principles of justice. For example, it is widely claimed that all reputable meical authorities in this case have established that Terri is in a persistent vegetative state. NOT SO! Please read the news story, "<A HREF="http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=43470" REL="nofollow"><EM>Florida neurologist: <BR/>Terri's no vegetable</EM></A>." There are many other articles of significance at the same site. <BR/><BR/>It's fine to have different views, but how can you deny the fact that a prominent neurologist has contrdicted the common assumption that Terri is just a vegetable? If there is doubt, shouldn't we error on the side of life until the doubt is removed?<BR/><BR/>I may not post more on this troublesome issue - there are so many other topics begging to be explored, but Terri's case is one that highlights some significant trends and dangers in our society. If we do not speak up for the unborn and the handicapped, if we can allow others to slay someone by just believing that she is brain dead when that is not the case, then we have crossed a terrible threshhold. It's been crossed before, and I don't like where it leads.Jeff Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08776493593387402607noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-1111846848570778032005-03-26T08:20:00.000-06:002005-03-26T08:20:00.000-06:00Many excellent comments - thanks! I appreciate the...Many excellent comments - thanks! I appreciate the generally respectful tone as well. Let me emphasize that there are significant points that can be made on both sides of this issue, leaving room for honest Chistians to differ in their views without desrving contempt or denunciation from their fellow Christians. While the information and perspectives that I have lead me to one clear conclusion that I have stated in strong terms, I appreciate that other LDS people may disagree in good faith.Jeff Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08776493593387402607noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-1111821651859701492005-03-26T01:20:00.000-06:002005-03-26T01:20:00.000-06:00the whole situation stinks, really. a huaband wan...the whole situation stinks, really. a huaband wants her dead and her parents want her alive. her parents are gonna be sad soon, because it won't be long now before she finally starves to death. what tragedy. but really, i've stopped caring.<BR/><BR/>all i want to know about now is the rapture. protestants hold this as one of their main doctrines, and i just would like to know where they get this idea from. where in the bible does it talk about something like this, and how does the church interpret this part of the bible. i.e. what do we believe about the rapture? have any prophets or other GAs talked abnout something at all related to this topic? i'm really curious. thanksAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-1111773134010353452005-03-25T11:52:00.000-06:002005-03-25T11:52:00.000-06:00How can anyone come to the conclusion that allowin...How can anyone come to the conclusion that allowing someone to starve to death is humane?<BR/><BR/>We wouldn't allow that as a means for capital punishment. This society would lock someone up for allowing an animal to starve to death. <BR/><BR/>In the Netherlands they are already allowing handicapped and disabled children to be euthenized when the doctore determines that they simply don't have a certain quality of life. The children this is happening to have Cerebral Palsy, Downs Syndrome and Spina Bifida. One would imagine them to be the worst cases, but they aren't. Many of these children have cognitive skills and eat on their own. But some doctor has decided he wouldn't want to live like that so he orders euthenasia.<BR/><BR/>What kind of people are we if we are unwilling to care for the least able to care for themselves?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-1111772738383933072005-03-25T11:45:00.000-06:002005-03-25T11:45:00.000-06:00Guy Murray - So then according to your standards o...Guy Murray - So then according to your standards of obeying the law, what if this country decided to follow the Chinese in forcing abortion on women after one child? Do we still obey? At what point does this obey arguement fall apart in your eyes? <BR/><BR/>This country was founded on principles that are being twisted and distorted beyond recognition.<BR/><BR/>It is clear that you have not followed this case from the beginning. A place to start would be here: http://www.terrisfight.net/timeline.html<BR/><BR/>This is a timeline and you will note Michael's sudden rememberance that Terri didn't want to be alive in this condition came after he won 1.3 million in a lawsuit instead of the 20 million he sued for. He claimed he needed 20 million to keep her alive for the rest of her life, medication, etc. Then when he won the 1.3 he immediately began fighting to kill her. My guess is he would have done the same if he won 20 million. Clearly he was after the money, not fighting for his disabled wife. There is still a large balance of that money that he will get as soon as she is dead.<BR/><BR/>This is a sick and twisted case. There was evidence also in the very beginning of broken bones and also some bruising around her neck that made some think she had been strangled and beaten. But not enough evidence to indict Mr. Schiavo. You should read the medical reports, etc. <BR/><BR/>This is a case of gross misscarriage of justice that is leading this country further down the path of a culture of death.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-1111711630178933442005-03-24T18:47:00.000-06:002005-03-24T18:47:00.000-06:00My veiws as expressed earlier may come across as a...My veiws as expressed earlier may come across as a little more heated than I intend. I do understand that there are many people who are on the opposite side of the issue who truely believe they are standing up for what is "right". I am not convinced. I think that there is enough evidence in support of some standard of rehabilitation she could endure that makes me want to error on the side of life. Once she is dead, she is dead and we won't be able to help her. I want to see every resource exhausted before she meets her fate. I also am not paticularly happy with the method of death she must endure, it doesn't seem paticularly humane to starve and dehydrate her to death. In the end, for now I support those who want her alive.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-1111690514977738682005-03-24T12:55:00.000-06:002005-03-24T12:55:00.000-06:00Well said, Jeff! I am currently a student studying...Well said, Jeff! I am currently a student studying and entering the criminal justice field and I have to agree that over the past 50 years or so the courts of our country have been invaded and overtaken with left-leaning individuals with an agenda. Disclaimer: I do not oppose democrate, or liberal judges on principal, just only when they MIS-interpret the law to suit their personal political beliefs. I agree that it has gotten to the point at which human life is concidered cheap and disposable. Animals and death-row inmates are given more rights than humans with disabilities and babies. The liberal left tries to distance themselves (and others) by using science and clever stand-in words to make it seem as if it is not killing. A baby becomes a fetus, a murder becomes an abortion, a DISABLED HUMAN becomes a "vegetable" how long untill they (as the nazi's did) go after mentally retarted persons? It sure is easy to attack those who cannot defend themselves! This is reflected everywhere thru the system. Scenario one: a murderer kills an 95-year-old person. Scenario two: a mother kills her 5-year old child. Who do you think get's the longer prison sentence? The killer of the elderly man does, the murdering mother gets a head evaluation and parole. Now ask yourself which crime is more heinous? depriving an old man of his last 5 years? or depriving a child of 95 years? Their whole lifetime. A fundamental problem we have is communities accepting and tolerating this behavior. Stand up, speak out! Life is worth more than I can fathom or convey.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com