tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post111841069389892388..comments2023-11-02T07:25:45.884-05:00Comments on Mormanity - a blog for those interested in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints: 1 Chronicles 17 and the Fallibility of ProphetsJeff Lindsayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08776493593387402607noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-1142795766588460422006-03-19T13:16:00.000-06:002006-03-19T13:16:00.000-06:00"Whoever said they were?""When the prophet has spo..."Whoever said they were?"<BR/><BR/>"When the prophet has spoken, the thinking has been done."<BR/><BR/>"The Lord will never allow the prophet to lead the church astray."<BR/><BR/>These and similar stuff are found in many places... all the while we have the loonytune statements of Jos Fielding and ET and BrighamtheSupremeRacist etched in the books as spoken from the pulpit.<BR/><BR/>Two pray about something and come to opposite conclusions. Two study something and come to opposite conclusions. A leader speaks his own opinion but fails to state it as such and we get crap like "Mormon Doctrine".<BR/><BR/>Pick and choose what works for you and dont rely on these jokers too much or you will be in deep doodoo.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-1118463538331767392005-06-10T23:18:00.000-05:002005-06-10T23:18:00.000-05:00One can argue that numerous earrings, body piercin...One can argue that numerous earrings, body piercings, and tattoos are not inherently evil (though I like the point about not putting graffiti on our bodies, and do worry about the infections and scarring people get), but in the context of our present society, they tend to be associated with people whose values are at odds with the Gospel. Perhaps obeying the counsel of the prophets on this point is a way of providing an outward symbol of our inward faith, helping us to avoid the appearance of evil, and teaching us indirectly to move toward higher standards. <BR/><BR/>These principles that are so annoying to some of our people may be analogous to the prohibition on coffee. It may be that coffee is not harmful to one's health, and may be much better than, say, french fries or donuts. But whether it's healthy or not, avoiding coffee is a very visible symbol to others of our obedience to our religion. The rebellious can sip their lattes and swirl their cappuccinos and snicker at the prophets, joking that the Word of Wisdom is "mocha-do about nothing" (hey, I like that phrase - it just popped out - anyone heard it elsewhere?), but the obedient take a more humble approach in their decision to respect the counsel of God. <BR/><BR/>Of course, we need to be gentle and accepting of those who don't yet understand the counsel of the Lord or who have not yet made the commitment to follow it. Let us be kind and warm to all in our midst, no matter how injured their cartilage, how stained their skin, or how prone to infection their tongue, nostrils, and other random body parts. Let us simply be grateful for the inspired counsel we have received and do our best to live it and encourage it in our circles of influence, recognizing that others may not understand, need more time, or did not get the counsel in time to avoid a tattoo.Jeff Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08776493593387402607noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-1118463384415616702005-06-10T23:16:00.000-05:002005-06-10T23:16:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Jeff Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08776493593387402607noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-1118461153058667872005-06-10T22:39:00.000-05:002005-06-10T22:39:00.000-05:00the saints have been counciled over and over and o...the saints have been counciled over and over and over not to wear earrings if they are male, or only one pair of modest earrings if you're a female. this should be the simplest council in the entire world to follow. apparently people justify that the prophets' councils are not always important, or that they think they know better than the Lord. Thus I think earrings are an excellent example of obedience; it is such a simple principle to follow, and those who don't are simply lacking a strong enough testimony about our leaders and the church. personally it bothers me when girls in the church are wearing multiple pairs of earrings; it shows me that they don't value the council of the prophets, and that isn't very attractive. Yes it's a small issue, and there are much more important commandments to follow. But it's such an easy commandment to be faithful to, that it saddens me when people don't adhere to it. if they won't listen to Pres. Hinckley when it comes to earrings, will they listen to him about gambling? what about pornography? Will they only follow his council when it's something they want to hear?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-1118435491093844212005-06-10T15:31:00.000-05:002005-06-10T15:31:00.000-05:00Hi my name is Josh Kim. I agree that prophets are ...Hi my name is Josh Kim. I agree that prophets are fallible and that it doesn't mean that they are not fallen.<BR/><BR/>There seems to be a furor in other blogs over Elder Bednar's talk at a BYU devotional in Provo a month ago. <BR/><BR/>People decry the fact that he used earrings as an example of obedience. What do you think?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-1118433850595132752005-06-10T15:04:00.000-05:002005-06-10T15:04:00.000-05:00I'm reminded of a speaker at Pres. Kimball's funer...I'm reminded of a speaker at Pres. Kimball's funeral back in 1985. I believe it was Thomas S. Monson...<BR/>He said people often asked him when Pres. Kimball was acting as a prophet and when he was acting as a man. He responded that he didn't try to seperate the two, but he just tried to be more like him.<BR/><BR/>You do a good thing here Jeff. I stumbled across your website a month of so ago. I find that I frequent it a couple of times a week. Critics will never change the truth.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com