tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post1591195437377291347..comments2023-11-02T07:25:45.884-05:00Comments on Mormanity - a blog for those interested in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints: The Pew Forum Study on Mormons: Understanding the LimitationsJeff Lindsayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08776493593387402607noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-37416693028034643362012-12-05T13:41:39.576-06:002012-12-05T13:41:39.576-06:00I agree, self-identification is the only truly val...I agree, self-identification is the only truly valid indicator of religious affiliation; an idea which is consistent with American values relating to freedom of religion: you are free at any time to choose the religion you associate with.<br />Paul Senzeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02573580670699332421noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-26216691015431800882012-12-01T12:47:23.048-06:002012-12-01T12:47:23.048-06:00You highlight an interesting point: how to define ...You highlight an interesting point: how to define if a person is Mormon. I know I'm in the minority of Church members, but I believe self-identification is a more relevant measure than baptism. Being Mormon is more than a one-time event, even an event that can be as sacred as baptism.30 year-old Dadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14189674064747444979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-18393605386097220762012-11-30T01:26:01.296-06:002012-11-30T01:26:01.296-06:00Regarding the 77% vs 50%, I don't see anything...Regarding the 77% vs 50%, I don't see anything amiss. Many of those that don't attend meeting would probably not declare they are Mormon. I don't know how many times I've visited an inactive member only to hear them say they are not Mormon anymore.Ben Arkellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12498238407869065383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-575030873062675252012-11-29T20:08:18.355-06:002012-11-29T20:08:18.355-06:00Of course I "have a lot of ideas on how relig...Of course I "have a lot of ideas on how religions ought to be conducting their affairs." And why shouldn't I? Religion shapes the world I live in.<br /><br />-- EveningsunAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-62060418296188247212012-11-29T12:29:53.285-06:002012-11-29T12:29:53.285-06:00Eve Sun, for an atheist, you sure have a lot of id...Eve Sun, for an atheist, you sure have a lot of ideas on how religions ought to be conducting their affairs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-37015108666075934682012-11-29T12:28:13.151-06:002012-11-29T12:28:13.151-06:00Complaining about a lack of nuance or context in a...Complaining about a lack of nuance or context in a factoid is like complaining about a short twitter post. I didn't see any problem with the factoid, even after the comments in the other post. Morgan Deanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09480320552458246756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-17531885543682623862012-11-29T09:45:11.490-06:002012-11-29T09:45:11.490-06:00The 77% v. <50% point is interesting - but it m...The 77% v. <50% point is interesting - but it may not be a result solely of self-selection bias. I know a number of members who would say and actually think they attend every week, but really do not. Just as I know members who consider themselves active but attedn sporadically. Jim Laytonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08245296546936520038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-84238732014151122912012-11-29T09:02:38.513-06:002012-11-29T09:02:38.513-06:00Jeff, it's all well and good to point out that...Jeff, it's all well and good to point out that, in the infographic published by the Church's PR shop, "complex details aren't going to be conveyed well," and that the study on which one of the factoids is based "has inherent limitations that need to be understood."<br /><br />The bottom line is that the infographic conveys an overall impression that is not really true. The real problem here has to do with the question of why Mormon Newsroom used this particular factoid in the first place: not because it is <i>true</i>, but because it makes the Church <i>look good</i>.<br /><br />And this is precisely the problem with a <i>church</i> running a <i>public relations</i> outfit. If there's any institution in the modern world that should reject the "PR ethic" and focus solely on truth rather than appearance, it is religion.<br /><br />-- EveningsunAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com