tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post2121909167529650046..comments2023-11-02T07:25:45.884-05:00Comments on Mormanity - a blog for those interested in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints: The Orange Car: A Story about Tithing, the Thing You Pay with FaithJeff Lindsayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08776493593387402607noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-36284298458281836432013-08-25T12:10:40.484-05:002013-08-25T12:10:40.484-05:00I find it sad to see this as a positive thing, I c...I find it sad to see this as a positive thing, I could go on and explain how the church member could have used that tithing money to purchase a car. I could demonstrate several ways to put his money to work to sustain his family. I know it will not be good enough for TBM, they will never see anything but their doctrine. For non believers they don't need to be shown, they will understand.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-56814821650622689812011-06-12T08:41:58.458-05:002011-06-12T08:41:58.458-05:00Thanks for posting this story. I was looking for ...Thanks for posting this story. I was looking for something to share with my Elders Quorum on tithing and this will be great! I appreciate the time you take to promote the Gospel on-line.Kevin Abernethyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11415852689230777585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-41487272178375428382009-03-15T13:03:00.000-05:002009-03-15T13:03:00.000-05:00As a church member I find it interesting that over...As a church member I find it interesting that over the last while we have had lots of talks on tithing and it's blessings and on ones ability to provide for oneself. Instead of looking for handouts ( translation ) don’t Q outside the bishops office……. Our building is rented …when I asked if we had a budget for fixing lights and simple things like that I was told we pay the landlord and he is meant to maintain the building. And that we should be happy with what we have ( laughing) <BR/> So we sit in the dark on hard plastic seats for 3 hrs when huge amounts of money is spent on shopping malls in SLC its enough to drive me back to be a CatholicAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-53995374176890264162009-01-06T20:56:00.000-06:002009-01-06T20:56:00.000-06:00Stephen...I want to commend you on your faith and ...Stephen...<BR/><BR/>I want to commend you on your faith and I wouldn't call it foolish.<BR/><BR/>I'm afraid that I can't accept this 'mall' position that the LDS church has made and that's not going to change.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-29877245617292032002009-01-01T03:44:00.000-06:002009-01-01T03:44:00.000-06:00sensible stories on experiences of tithing blessin...sensible stories on experiences of tithing blessings that dont stampede full-speed into dogmatic absurdities are refreshing.SlalomHOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12938903054435581393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-4701782414972993042008-12-27T01:36:00.000-06:002008-12-27T01:36:00.000-06:00I pay my tithing to the Lord. The Lord happens use...I pay my tithing to the Lord. The Lord happens uses His church to collect and spend the tithing I give Him. After I pay it, the Lord can do whatever He wants with my tithing or any other assets His church has. It's not my place to tell Him or His church what to do with them.<BR/><BR/>I trust the Lord completely and since the Lord trust His prophets and holds them accountable to Him, who am I to distrust His prophets.<BR/><BR/>You may call this foolishness. I consider it wisdom to learn in whom you can trust.Stephenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16323317021103844374noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-77501704499170662662008-12-27T01:34:00.000-06:002008-12-27T01:34:00.000-06:00This comment has been removed by the author.Stephenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16323317021103844374noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-50674729215417444972008-12-25T14:54:00.000-06:002008-12-25T14:54:00.000-06:00Last anon: There are at least two good reasons for...Last anon: <BR/><BR/>There are at least two good reasons for the mall (and I don't think it's quite 2 billion dollars, about 1 billion is what I've heard.)<BR/><BR/>1. The property is an investment. It will return an INCOME. And the return on the investment will likely be better than what the stock market has done recently. <BR/><BR/>Large non-profits such as the church need income-producing investments.<BR/><BR/>2. It's not just a shopping mall. There will be offices, school facilities and residential units as part of the complex. All of those are needed downtown. <BR/><BR/>Those facilities will either produce more income, or will save the church from having to rent space elsewhere.<BR/><BR/>The "mall" will be a revenue-generating asset, and that income is needed to help pay for the revenue-<I>consuming</I> assets such as chapels and temples around the world. Local tithing in 3rd world countries may pay for the upkeep, but there's no way it can fund the construction going on. That has to come from the US.<BR/><BR/>Sure, the church is sitting on a lot of assets. And that's a good thing! The church (as a corporation) is rich, WOO HOO! <BR/><BR/>You ex-mos talk like all charities have to spend down their liquid or non-real-estate assets every year. That's foolish. No charity with extensive income-consuming assets (chapels, temples, schools, etc) and programs would ever think of that.<BR/><BR/>And those assets need to be put to use in the smartest way possible. <BR/><BR/>Smart asset managers know that you need to make some assets into safe and secure revenue generators in order to <I>create</I> and <I>protect</I> other essential assets that don't generate revenue. <BR/><BR/>Another principle of safeguarding assets is to diversify revenue-generating investments. The "mall" may be a good example of asset diversity.<BR/><BR/>The church building the "mall" is a very smart move, which is the opposite of what you ex-mo's have been whining about.Bookslingerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15077778974473538408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-64140187580814640812008-12-24T05:57:00.000-06:002008-12-24T05:57:00.000-06:00I'm the anon from 7:15 pm above.I appreciate LizBe...I'm the anon from 7:15 pm above.<BR/><BR/>I appreciate LizBeths comments about 'Just Do It' but this person fails to give an opinion on spending 2 billion on a mall.<BR/><BR/>Is it right for the LDS church to do that in your opinion?<BR/><BR/>My opinion is there are alot better things like I know that missionary stipends were recently cut again. These kids seem to try to survive on nothing and yet we spend money elsewhere.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-25748773856835235062008-12-23T17:51:00.000-06:002008-12-23T17:51:00.000-06:00One thing is constant and true... The Gospel of Je...One thing is constant and true... The Gospel of Jesus Christ! Living it brings happiness and blessings unmeasured to us others around us. My husband and I have paid tithing for 15+ years and have been carried through the toughest of times. JUST DO IT!Elizabeth McDonaldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10401108426779834632noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-64215687174867821202008-12-22T22:53:00.000-06:002008-12-22T22:53:00.000-06:00I'm OK with tithing - it's paying taxes that is ha...I'm OK with tithing - it's paying taxes that is hard when the government is handing 2 TRILLION to crooks on Wall Street and beyond.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-55841286242356914652008-12-22T21:15:00.000-06:002008-12-22T21:15:00.000-06:00I hate to burst anyones bubble but I'm having a ha...I hate to burst anyones bubble but I'm having a hard time paying tithing when the church used 2 billion on a mall in Utah. I know what everyone is going to say... thats not tithing money. But it had to start from somewhere! and it could be used for better purposes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-27604143350238340512008-12-22T13:14:00.000-06:002008-12-22T13:14:00.000-06:00Thank you for posting this story! I have such a st...Thank you for posting this story! I have such a strong testimony of tithing. The very jobs I've had throughout my life I can attribute to the law of tithing. It's such a cut and dry principle and one that's easy to be 'perfect' in.Tiannahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15265853642971171298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-22469725243913461792008-12-22T10:02:00.000-06:002008-12-22T10:02:00.000-06:00That's an awesome story, but then this *is* one of...That's an awesome story, but then this *is* one of the more strongly-worded promises I can think of, especially the way the New Living Translation puts it:<BR/><BR/><I>I will open the windows of heaven for you. I will pour out a blessing so great you won’t have enough room to take it in! Try it! Put me to the test!</I><BR/><BR/>That's a close to a double-dog dare as it gets, I think...<BR/><BR/>... it is a bit sad, though, that money has such a strong pull on us that we need such a strong promise.Ryanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16637903015592683300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-52139817559584737412008-12-22T03:37:00.000-06:002008-12-22T03:37:00.000-06:00I always have good intentions to pay tithing, I ju...I always have good intentions to pay tithing, I just forget to do it until months have gone by, but it's always in full for the year. I hope I'll remember to do better in 2009!Michelle Glauserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01646213573761736892noreply@blogger.com