tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post6050152876171319631..comments2023-11-02T07:25:45.884-05:00Comments on Mormanity - a blog for those interested in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints: "Steps to Perfection"?? Exposing St. Clement of Alexandria, An Early Non-Christian CultistJeff Lindsayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08776493593387402607noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-29281914039920703382013-02-17T23:18:57.850-06:002013-02-17T23:18:57.850-06:00Thank's, if you find more tell us.
Happy New Y...Thank's, if you find more tell us.<br />Happy New Year !Raphaƫlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-53517141486015590422013-02-14T21:11:27.322-06:002013-02-14T21:11:27.322-06:00By "final" I only meant most recent, but...By "final" I only meant most recent, but thanks for your enormously insightful contribution to the conversation. Martinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-82660996490750945972013-02-14T20:31:38.546-06:002013-02-14T20:31:38.546-06:00Interesting that Martin says our DNA structure is ...Interesting that Martin says our DNA structure is final. He is probably the smartest person in the world. Knows that evolution stops.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-5418777962530129622013-02-02T20:40:32.732-06:002013-02-02T20:40:32.732-06:00What if our form is another universal constant; pi...What if our form is another universal constant; pi, e, c, human. Provided that the conditions for life exist, the human form will evolve. Once intelligent life on another planet is found we'll confirm or disprove this idea. If confirmed I hereby name the constant the "Stewart Constant", represented with an Hm. (This can't be a new idea.) Patricknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-41441305452704466902013-01-30T08:06:51.020-06:002013-01-30T08:06:51.020-06:00Which part was divinely guided, and what does &quo...Which part was divinely guided, and what does "guided" mean? We can agree that a set of natural laws resulting in evolution may have come from a divine lawgiver, but if you're suggesting, like a lot of theists do, that the various stochastic events (i.e. mutations and other DNA changes) that gave us our final DNA structure were each controlled by God in a way that would duplicate a reproductively compatible species, then you're not really talking about evolution. Such "guided" molecular events wouldn't be stochastic, which isn't consistent with chemistry. That's just God miraculously making DNA. And He could have done it much more quickly than He did without the need to go through making now extinct species. Martinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-59284623012397380562013-01-30T00:06:00.861-06:002013-01-30T00:06:00.861-06:00Hmm, while naturally I know evolution is a real th...Hmm, while naturally I know evolution is a real thing, in order to believe any bible-based religion we have to consider that the evolution of humankind was divinely guided...it only seems reasonable that this could happen in many other worlds and times. It wasn't a random happenstance and has a much higher probability because of that.Momonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-11212522951064718302013-01-29T18:56:51.305-06:002013-01-29T18:56:51.305-06:00Big enough to duplicate the series of stochastic e...Big enough to duplicate the series of stochastic events that gave us our 46 chromosomes? Not likely, birth of Spock notwithstanding. Martinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-5825863078298597262013-01-29T11:12:11.600-06:002013-01-29T11:12:11.600-06:00The universe is a big place. I'll hold out un...The universe is a big place. I'll hold out until we know more.<br /><br />Steve<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-63026778147700817982013-01-29T10:06:11.151-06:002013-01-29T10:06:11.151-06:00Yes, I am. We have no examples of two reproductive...Yes, I am. We have no examples of two reproductively compatible species evolving independently. If man evolved twice, the second man wouldn't be reproductively compatible with the first. We're asked to believe things about the lineage of Jesus that would imply reproductive compatibility. Martinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-29607561941917614642013-01-29T05:39:27.063-06:002013-01-29T05:39:27.063-06:00Martin,
You are assuming that the evolution of ma...Martin,<br /><br />You are assuming that the evolution of man is a one off event.<br /><br />Steve<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-30512678676812387852013-01-28T12:54:43.403-06:002013-01-28T12:54:43.403-06:00I've always thought that criticizing the LDS b...I've always thought that criticizing the LDS belief that humans can attain godhood as being non-Christian or non-Biblical is obtuse. Besides being consistent with early church teachings, it is one of Joseph Smith's most inspiring and ennobling revelations. It is unlikely, however, that Clement would have agreed with Joseph Smith's additional teaching that God the father of Jesus Christ was once a man. Clement criticized the Greeks' anthropomorphizing of God. His belief in God's having the physical form of a man was limited to Jesus Christ. <br /><br />Although the idea that God the father of Jesus was once a man didn't make it into the LDS canon, it was preached by Joseph Smith during the last few months of his life and is believed by many if not most Mormons who are acquainted with it. I can't reconcile such a belief with the evidence for evolution, however. God would have had to obtain his human body after the evolution of humans, somewhat reminiscent of the Adam-God theory. Martinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-14464266263056546922013-01-27T15:01:57.317-06:002013-01-27T15:01:57.317-06:00Haha. I love how you define historical Christianit...Haha. I love how you define historical Christianity. Reminds me how the Evvie version of biblical inerrancy is still a relatively young doctrine. <br /><br />You'd think, for evvies, that the Great Apostasy were those years when the bible wasn't even formed yet, and scripture held a much different weight. <br /><br />-OpenmindedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-72114285790596138102013-01-27T09:16:03.026-06:002013-01-27T09:16:03.026-06:00Charming! Thanks for this.Charming! Thanks for this.Bonniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04191017963027895446noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-91022902138420203342013-01-27T08:43:27.399-06:002013-01-27T08:43:27.399-06:00Whoa, this guy was almost as bad as that ancient d...Whoa, this guy was almost as bad as that ancient dude who said, how he put it, "Ye are gods"! (exposed in John 10, quoting Psalm 82). Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com