tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post109491000216370048..comments2023-11-02T07:25:45.884-05:00Comments on Mormanity - a blog for those interested in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints: Extinct Indian Tribe Challenges "Asia Only" Theories for Origins of Ancient AmericansJeff Lindsayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08776493593387402607noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-79800038730759209712010-08-29T20:43:44.327-05:002010-08-29T20:43:44.327-05:00That's it. Since there is no other evidence of...That's it. Since there is no other evidence of any other migration to the Americas the verdict is in and conclusive. I'm sure science, archeology and technology, as unchangeable as they ALL are, have now concluded with all the facts that the Book is false and the Church isn't based on truths.<br /><br />I love the way life works, it's so easy a caveman can figure it out!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-73088078276439324742010-07-27T11:27:36.211-05:002010-07-27T11:27:36.211-05:00Look at the full scope of evidence as to Native Am...Look at the full scope of evidence as to Native American Ancestry.<br />1) DNA<br />2) Archelogical<br />3) Cultural<br />4) Oral History and or some writings<br />5) Language <br /><br />========<br /><br />It is becoming clear that while most of Native American ancestry came from NE Asia there were some other travelers. However, there is absolutely no evidence of any Middle Eastern influence.<br /><br />This must be God testing faith.Billoutwesthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00748553042553924865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-13520479574223675932010-07-27T11:26:51.315-05:002010-07-27T11:26:51.315-05:00Look at the full scope of evidence as to Native Am...Look at the full scope of evidence as to Native American Ancestry.<br />1) DNA<br />2) Archelogical<br />3) Cultural<br />4) Oral History and or some writings<br />5) Language <br /><br />========<br /><br />It is becoming clear that while most of Native American ancestry came from NE Asia there were some other travelers. However, there is absolutely no evidence of any Middle Eastern influence.<br /><br />This must be God testing faith.Billoutwesthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00748553042553924865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-19868543599754147762008-05-29T15:06:00.000-05:002008-05-29T15:06:00.000-05:00Take a look at the logical fallacy known as "Movin...Take a look at the logical fallacy known as "Moving the Goalposts."<BR/><BR/>Even if you don't know what it is, you are already very good at it.<BR/><BR/>For years, Mormons have claimed that the Book of Mormon tells the story of the ancestors of today's Native Americans. They have. <BR/><BR/>The introduction to the Book of Mormon even said so, before they added a qualifier to it. <BR/><BR/>The stories of early Church history are LOADED with accounts of pioneers telling Native Americans that they had a book about their origins. <BR/><BR/>If they never said that Lehi and his crew were the ancestors of ALL Native Americans, they certainly implied it, and did so very strongly.<BR/><BR/>To deny these claims now is to move the goalposts, and it just looks tacky, just looks like you're desperately trying to cover yourself, to cling to something that's totally contrary to the evidence. <BR/><BR/>Real science and real history do not support the claims of Mormonism, as anyone who takes the time to examine either will quickly discover for themselves.<BR/><BR/>Also, Web searches regarding the linked-to articles you cited show no new supporting information in years, and show Dr. Silvia Gonzalez to be a perhaps somewhat dubious researcher, always on the fringe of legitimate research.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-48429490716431113452008-04-01T02:27:00.000-05:002008-04-01T02:27:00.000-05:00Good brief. Thanks. Thanks for your sites. In re a...Good brief. Thanks. Thanks for your sites. In re anonymous Sep. 22 2004: You might say Noah was Semitic if speaking regionally, rather than culturally, and that because of where he landed, not because of where he was from. Language issues began with the fall of the Tower of Babel--Presumably, most culture and racial issues sprang from that time as well. (Noah being pre-Babel.)<BR/><BR/>From Jim's partial digestion of facts by thought.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-1098511458347554442004-10-23T01:04:00.000-05:002004-10-23T01:04:00.000-05:00I get tired of hearing about the DNA evidence that...I get tired of hearing about the DNA evidence that is suppose to prove the Book of Mormon a fake. I look at all of it very logically . Maybe I'm looking at this wrong, and if I am correct me please, but aren't we all related to Noah, since he and his family repopulated the entire earth? So why don't we all have the same make up that would go back to him? Isn't he of Hebrew decent? Please let me know how all of this ties in??!! It just seems that no one could prove or not prove on DNA basis bacause of this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-1094933440032098412004-09-11T15:10:00.000-05:002004-09-11T15:10:00.000-05:00Good point. We need to make it increasingly clear ...Good point. We need to make it increasingly clear that the DNA attacks are not aimed at what the Book of Mormons actually says, but at a popular unjustified assumption. It is a clasic straw man argument. The critics know this, but that doesn't stop them from holding press conferences to convince an unwitting public that Mormonism has been blown out of the water by science.Jeff Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08776493593387402607noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-1094913095029094042004-09-11T09:31:00.000-05:002004-09-11T09:31:00.000-05:00Excellent post Jeff. I have nothing much to offer ...Excellent post Jeff. I have nothing much to offer but that the critics even admit that the Limited Geography model goes unschated by DNA Evidence. Thomas Murphy admits this in his essay "Lamanite genesis, genetics and genealogy" on page 56 of American Apocrypha where he quotes a scientest who claims that the extant DNA evidence does not preclude small scale cultural contacts with the Americas and oceanic seafarers. <br />This is the reason why so many anti-Mormons must use the straw-man argument that the BOm and the LDS Church 'teaches' the Lehi and his people were the _sole_ ancestprys of _all_ Amerindians, etc.Robert Boylanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01252989841442658670noreply@blogger.com