tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post2221699674718764988..comments2023-11-02T07:25:45.884-05:00Comments on Mormanity - a blog for those interested in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints: Facing Loss and Pain without Complaint: Richard G. Scott's Personal PerspectiveJeff Lindsayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08776493593387402607noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-61869025910490993942009-12-03T17:42:26.540-06:002009-12-03T17:42:26.540-06:00I think this is a good source for direction for so...I think this is a good source for direction for some. But knowing that "to some is given one, and to some is given another, that all may be profited thereby," I think it is good to recognize that those who go through sorrows and grief of losing children and/or loved ones may *righteously* experience a completely different journey than Elder Scott recounts. Don't believe me? When's the last time you read Job? All of it? Job did his share of complaining, although he also was quite insistent that the Lord was good (see Job 2:10). Honestly, sometimes I think people forget that this life is a place for learning and growing. Sometimes I think ideas are over-simplified, or one's recounting of their experience is used as a guide to compare others who go through a similar experience. While it is a good reminder for all who suffer in grief to know that there are gospel truths that can bring us a certain level of comfort, let us also not forget that there are many other righteous directives given by prophets that compassionately acknowledge that these experiences are very difficult and trying, and that even the most wonderful and righteous among us will not handle these things perfectly. I also want to point out to anyone who reads this and thinks they have some sort of doctrine to use against anyone they deem to be bitter or not "handling their grief well" that any of us can tell a large part of our lives (spanning years) in a ten minute address and omit the dark, "dirty" part of those years in order to present the polished package of learning that we feel can help give direction to others. Because Elder Scott didn't speak of a single complaint doesn't mean there never was a complaint or a thought to complain. But if he truly was 100% complaint free, this is likely one of his gifts that he was given, and one that he was probably given because of his unique needs in this life, or because he had already mastered this before these experiences came into his life. Please remember to have patience with others who are in difficult circumstances. They may still be quite righteous, and still struggle with complaining and murmuring. I like to think that Sariah was a wonderfully righteous woman, and yet even the THOUGHT that her sons had perished brought complaining and murmuring. (see 1 Nephi 5) She had begun mourning even though her sons were still alive because she THOUGHT they were gone. I don't think any less of Sariah because her heart was so troubled, or because she complained and murmured out loud. I also do not think any less of Elder Scott for being able to avoid complaint or murmuring. I just worry that those of us who are quick to judge will use this article as a way to justify not helping others who are grieving or struggling, thinking that they are now "unworthy" if they complain or murmur. I'm rambling. I hope the intent of what I am saying is coming through right.plaidspoliticshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00393586634918991649noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-39164432747922759302009-11-03T22:51:17.353-06:002009-11-03T22:51:17.353-06:00Thank you.Thank you.ColleenaMareenahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14244572576298826670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-20686920973373040422009-10-29T21:39:55.890-05:002009-10-29T21:39:55.890-05:00I lost my 2 month old son to SIDS last month. I ha...I lost my 2 month old son to SIDS last month. I hate to say "lost". I know exactly where he is :) I noticed you put that you could imagine yourself complaining. We can imagine a lot of things, but you should have more faith in yourself. God trusts us and only gives us what we can bear.<br /><br />I can testify also of peace that comes of Christ and not of the world. There is such power as that of the ministering of angels.<br /><br />I love that I have agency. I can choose. I may not be able to choose having my son to feed or adore or brush his cheek by mine, but I will have that glorious day in time. I choose to kneel before my maker and confess that Jesus is the Christ. I choose to align my will to His. I choose to follow His plan and let His wisdom guide my path.<br /><br />The thing is, I chose this before I had to face the pain I'm going through now. And when the choice is made life can be happy even in hard times. You've made that choice... that's why I love reading your uplifting and witty blog. Don't imagine, just know.Sofia's Primary Ideashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09757655354773987673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-30682980006579303392009-10-29T08:47:19.962-05:002009-10-29T08:47:19.962-05:00"Perspactive" was probably just my old R..."Perspactive" was probably just my old Rocky Mountain dialect - or dialact - showing through. ;) Changed it.Jeff Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08776493593387402607noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-959871876868639692009-10-28T22:52:04.813-05:002009-10-28T22:52:04.813-05:00perspectiveperspectiveAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-71234823022948531672009-10-28T22:51:12.146-05:002009-10-28T22:51:12.146-05:00The last word of the Title-"Perspactive"...The last word of the Title-"Perspactive"- did you mean "Perspecive?" :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-84183395785546742852009-10-28T15:34:39.683-05:002009-10-28T15:34:39.683-05:00President Spencer Kimball was famous for saying so...President Spencer Kimball was famous for saying something like: "The only true tragedy is unrepented sin."Bookslingerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15077778974473538408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-78411683115156220422009-10-27T20:11:50.126-05:002009-10-27T20:11:50.126-05:00Thank you, Jeff, for sharing such a beautiful talk...Thank you, Jeff, for sharing such a beautiful talk. I'm happy for the children of Elder Scott that they can rest with their mother. What a humble and loving man he is.<br /><br />God be thanked for the ordinances that bind us to Him and to our families forever. I hope that can someday become a reality for both of my parents, as well as my future family.Tonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03960519151863517265noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-51043191966122105812009-10-27T03:17:20.118-05:002009-10-27T03:17:20.118-05:00What a wonderful message. I too can share what Eld...What a wonderful message. I too can share what Elder Scott so eloquently said. When my wife and I were still in our first year of marriage, we were blessed with a beautiful baby boy. Unfortunately, a few weeks after his birth, he passed from this life to the next. It was extremely hard on us, however we were so blessed at the time to receive a wonderful gift in the way of a Ensign article by Elder McConkie that talked about the promise the Lord has made to those who have lost little children. What a sweet and wonderful comfort this message has been these many years. Several years ago, we lost another son. He had been disabled and wheelchair bound since almost birth. The glorious thing about the whole experience with him was that he never complained, was always happy and upbeat, and was such an example to me.<br /><br />I am grateful to loving Heavenly Father. He knows exactly what I need, when I need it. The temples are truly a source of peace, education, and revelation! I too testify their importance in our lives, and the great solace they give. I await the day when I too will be called home and embraced by those two sweet boys!Bradnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-35599240674517196982009-10-26T23:12:16.093-05:002009-10-26T23:12:16.093-05:00Thanks for highlighting this. It can be so easy to...Thanks for highlighting this. It can be so easy to forget that each man we see speaking at conference is an individual and many didn't have the perfect happy-go-lucky lives we sometimes assume they must have had.sister blah 2noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-51112991414956657842009-10-26T00:33:37.616-05:002009-10-26T00:33:37.616-05:00Corrected the name of the Apostle giving the talk....Corrected the name of the Apostle giving the talk. Thanks.Jeff Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08776493593387402607noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-18466130601086475542009-10-25T21:46:21.259-05:002009-10-25T21:46:21.259-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com