tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post3740403671821720901..comments2023-11-02T07:25:45.884-05:00Comments on Mormanity - a blog for those interested in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints: I Hope You've Gotten the Message About the Corona Virus ThreatJeff Lindsayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08776493593387402607noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-41369432370180721612020-03-07T10:33:32.824-06:002020-03-07T10:33:32.824-06:00Here is how the Chinese gov't rolls.<a href="https://thefederalist.com/2020/03/06/the-coronavirus-outbreak-has-given-beijing-a-new-tool-to-suppress-dissent/" rel="nofollow">Here is how the Chinese gov't rolls.</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-435426240564736292020-03-05T10:32:39.137-06:002020-03-05T10:32:39.137-06:00Obama did nothing about the H1N1 until over one th...Obama did nothing about the H1N1 until over one thousand people died from it.<br /><br />When the threat of Ebola came (an Ebola stricken person was allowed into the USA.... during Obama, and nothing was put in place then to stop Ebola from coming to the USA) the CDC was given billions of dollars to help the medical community in the entire country. <br /><br />The CDC did nothing. The money was not dispersed, training did not happen, supplies never showed up... to hospitals across the country.<br /><br />My cousin is a RN and is in a high position at a major hospital in a very large city. She is involved in emergency preparedness at the hospital, works with all healthcare in the entire city during emergencies. She said that the CDC refused to do what they were supposed to regarding Ebola virus. The CDC gave the run around, made excuses, did not keep appointments, etc<br /><br />She and her co-workers realized that the country was screwed if Ebola virus rapidly spread. <br /><br />I spoke to her about the Corona Virus. She said the CDC is not doing its job.... again. No different than what happened during the Ebola virus. Too many corrupt people entrenched in the CDC and entire federal government. Supported by the corrupt politicians of both parties. <br /><br />I have spoken to many in the medical community (I work at a hospital in a lab) and the medical community knows the CDC no longer does what it originally was designed to do. <br /> <br /><br />The CDC is corrupt as Hades... no surprise because every federal government agency is corrupt. The CDC is inept. On purpose. <br /><br />Trump is trying to keep people calm. The media is trying to cause panic. <br /><br />Too many in the federal government are working hard to undermine the Trump Administration. <br /><br />The corrupt Marx/Lennin/Alinsky Democrats and their boot lickers are doing everything they can to use the Corona Virus to help them hurt Trump.<br /><br />I was a Democrat. Not anymore. But I have always been supportive and defender of the Constitution.<br />I don't like Trump. But I am adult enough and use my brain to think for myself to see the truth about how Democrats are destroying the country and the Constitution. Look at Democrat run cities and states. San Francisco streets filled with raw sewage from humans, used drug needles, homeless people living on the lawns of homes and homeowners will be arrested if the homeless are not allowed to stay. Democrat supporting thugs not arrested for destruction. People threaten lives of Republican politicians and not arrested. Unborn babies aborted at any stage of pregnancy, and removing G-d from the platform was what made me realize how evil and vile Democrats are. Satan is rejoicing. <br /><br /><br /><br /> <br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-49953468855053331542020-02-28T21:20:54.209-06:002020-02-28T21:20:54.209-06:00Here's a message from your church's Europe...Here's a message from your church's European area presidency. Notice how calm and collected they are about all of this. Take a tip from them and chill out:<br /><br />We have had some questions about the Corona virus and whether we should restrict gatherings. We do not feel that is necessary at this time but will of course comply if local government officials require it at some future date. It would, however, seem short sighted unless they restrict gathering for the normal flu season as it appears to be very similar. Please see the observations below.<br /><br />According to the NHC in china.<br /><br />o The national mortality rate in china to date is 2.1% of confirmed cases which has declined from 2.3% since Feb 4. Because there are many mild cases not reported this percentage is estimated to be far lower in reality.<br /><br />o More than 80% of the deaths are over 60 years old, and more than 75% had underlying diseases.<br /><br /> According to John Hopkins the death rate is just 0.2% for people ages 10 to 39. Which is similar to the flu which has already caused 26 million illnesses, 250,000 hospitalizations and 14,000 deaths this season but has not caused such an irrational panic because it is more understood.<br /><br />Here is an article from Lancet, a highly respected medical journal provided by Elder Done who is one of our senior missionaries and also a medical doctor.<br /><br />“As of Feb 10, 37, 558 cases were confirmed, and 812 deaths had been reported to the WHO. Outside of China, 307 cases had been detected in 24 countries. Therefore, although several hundreds of patients remain in intensive care, the overall hospital fatality rate remains at 2%. Therefore, it is time to reduce the hype and hysteria surrounding the 2019-nCoV epidemic and reduce sensationalisation of new information, especially on social media, where many outlets aim to grab attention from followers. Additionally, the disparity between the strength of language as presented to the media by some researchers and politicians and the inference shared on social media requires more research to determine how content is being relayed on different platforms.<br /><br />An effective way of putting this outbreak into perspective is to compare it with other respiratory tract infections with epidemic potential. 2019-nCoV appears to fit the same pattern as influenza, with most people recovering and with a low death rate; the people at risk of increased mortality are older in age (>65 years), immunosuppressed, or have comorbid illnesses. There is currently no evidence that 2019-nCoV spreads more rapidly than influenza or has a higher mortality rate.”<br /><br />We will watch this carefully and be prepared to act should things change. We are not minimizing the risks, but please be calm and help those who may be overly stressed, whether it be missionary parents (healthy young missionaries are five times more likely to die from an auto accident than from this virus) or members. We should always practice good hygiene but we should never panic as far more people are trampled to death when someone yells fire than from the fire itself.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-63401579030532227132020-02-28T21:15:47.932-06:002020-02-28T21:15:47.932-06:00Rozy, you've fallen for the "I'm just...Rozy, you've fallen for the "I'm just asking the questions" fallacy. You need to stop. It doesn't help. While you sit back and wait for HE to do something, hard working medical professionals are solving problems and doing their best to fight the panic that people like you and Jeff are only encouraging. Keep your non-expert voice out of the conversation, people's lives are on the line here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-37919425562621159312020-02-28T11:10:50.229-06:002020-02-28T11:10:50.229-06:00Good for you Rozy. Because missionaries are going...Good for you Rozy. Because missionaries are going to start returning to Mormon enclaves around the US coming from Italy and Asia and other areas of contagion. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-64942043211349046622020-02-28T09:56:25.863-06:002020-02-28T09:56:25.863-06:00To Russ Jensen: How is the virus any different fro...To Russ Jensen: How is the virus any different from war, famine, pestilence, or any other disaster? I don't presume to know the mind of God, but I have read and seen how He works. He allows things to happen and He causes things to happen; which this is, I don't know. But I do have faith and confidence that HE is in charge and HE knows what HE'S doing.Rozy Lasshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06019413665136390175noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-50571103500343526792020-02-28T08:52:59.309-06:002020-02-28T08:52:59.309-06:00Interesting map showing the spread of the virus he...Interesting map showing the spread of the virus here:<br /><br />https://www.healthmap.org/covid-19/<br /><br />— OKAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-83136338001635166662020-02-27T20:20:56.493-06:002020-02-27T20:20:56.493-06:00Thanks for helping get the word out!Thanks for helping get the word out!C Thttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01178189190498225759noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-29953645056474545702020-02-27T13:54:20.984-06:002020-02-27T13:54:20.984-06:00Rozy, what a ridiculous comment. The Almighty sha...Rozy, what a ridiculous comment. The Almighty shaking things up by introducing a deadly virus is your idea of a good plan? I wonder if you would have proffered that same opinion if you or your family resided in China, Iran or Italy and some of your family members became ill? Your vision of the all loving and compassionate Almighty does not align with my belief. Hopefully I'm right. Russ Jensenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05876530913395671542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-46649728665241903562020-02-26T13:47:06.034-06:002020-02-26T13:47:06.034-06:00Thanks for your insights. I keep harking back to P...Thanks for your insights. I keep harking back to President Hinckley's October 1997 General Conference talk in which he said, "The Almighty, if necessary, may have to shake the nations to humble them and cause them to listen to the servants of the living God. Whatever is needed will come to pass." Current events in countries not now open to the gospel seems to point to a great shaking up, so to speak. Perhaps good will come out of this. After all, we now have a Prophet who speaks Chinese! Don't we think he was raised up for such a time as this?Rozy Lasshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06019413665136390175noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-16635006841790275662020-02-26T12:57:23.901-06:002020-02-26T12:57:23.901-06:00Anon 10:59 writes, I hope ... that Americans will ...Anon 10:59 writes, <i>I hope ... that Americans will recognize how our lack of public health systems puts us all at risk, the insured and the uninsured alike.</i><br /><br />Well said! Unfortunately, too many Americans see health insurance as a purely private and individual good, and not as a public and collective good. (The same is also true of higher education, alas.) I blame that stupid conservative ideology of “rugged individualism.”<br /><br />— OK<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-62263282424272389062020-02-26T10:59:36.071-06:002020-02-26T10:59:36.071-06:00We in the US should have a national health system ...We in the US should have a national health system that would ensure anyone with any question about their health or contacts could get a reliable diagnosis and appropriate treatment so that they didn't continue to be a vector of the virus. <br /><br />As it is, our spotty services that are unavailable to many coupled with the long asymptomatic incubation period of the corona virus will mean far more disease and death when the virus enters our shores as it necessarily will over time in a global world. Meanwhile, Trump is dismantling the protections that have been available to the poor and those who haven't been able to get insurance through their employers. <br /><br />I'm so glad his opposition is talking about providing universal care but there's no way any such system could be put in place in time to deal with this health emergency. I hope, however, that Americans will recognize how our lack of public health systems puts us all at risk, the insured and the uninsured alike.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-84877197848205830172020-02-26T10:18:33.276-06:002020-02-26T10:18:33.276-06:00I'm definitely concerned and appreciate your i...I'm definitely concerned and appreciate your insights. One thought I've had though is that if does become global, and is like the flu where anyone has a chance of getting it or dying from it, we should really just relax and let it take its course without quarantines and such. Millions die of the flu every year, but it doesn't impact travel, stock market, etc in the same way because we don't panic about it. We just accept that it's a risk of mortality, take precautions, try and stay healthy, treat it when sick, get vaccines when possible. Perhaps this will become more like that too.Anita Wellshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16850757077329787576noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-42570349548538944862020-02-26T08:33:49.906-06:002020-02-26T08:33:49.906-06:00Meanwhile, the President of the United States is d...Meanwhile, the President of the United States is downplaying the threat, claiming that it’s being blown out of proportion by the “liberal media” in order to undermine him. Fake news! “Caronavirus” (as Trump misspelled it) is no worse than the seasonal flu!<br /><br />— OKAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com