tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post4711058874669718039..comments2023-11-02T07:25:45.884-05:00Comments on Mormanity - a blog for those interested in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints: Abinadi vs. Noah's Priests: Why the Interest in Beautiful Feet?Jeff Lindsayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08776493593387402607noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-83660245520895515472007-09-10T21:48:00.000-05:002007-09-10T21:48:00.000-05:00Isn't that a bit of an over-reaction? No, Mr. T. (...Isn't that a bit of an over-reaction? No, Mr. T. (is that you again?), I have no desire to burn anybody at the stake. No murderous intent at all, even if I did get annoyed and deleted some off-topic or offensive comments. Just a little grilling is all I ever do - but only for those who throw themselves on the grill and light the kerosene. <BR/><BR/>Sorry, I guess I missed how this post was slamming sensitive authors who use the 10 commandments as a monotonous club to condemn others in truly inappropriate ways. I didn't see the slamming at all.Jeff Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08776493593387402607noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-89729336900668089852007-09-10T16:08:00.000-05:002007-09-10T16:08:00.000-05:00so why do you want to continue to 'slam' those peo...so why do you want to continue to 'slam' those people who are writing in other posts supporting the notion that you return to the original understanding observance of the 10 commandments ? Maybe you all in nature are the condemning priests that eventually kill abinadi by not heeding the warnings...... is it possible that you feel you want to do that to those authors?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-41893095613191542022007-09-06T23:24:00.000-05:002007-09-06T23:24:00.000-05:00Thank you! I have been bouncing that very idea ab...Thank you! I have been bouncing that very idea about these passages around in my head for several months now, and now I see it in print!<BR/><BR/>Priests of Noah: "So, Abinadi, the scriptures say we should be preaching good news. Where's your good news, preacher-boy?"<BR/><BR/>Abinadi: "Um, what exactly have you been teaching these poor people?"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-87872596502774057252007-09-06T09:45:00.000-05:002007-09-06T09:45:00.000-05:00Good point Dave D. I bet their is a PhD in there ...Good point Dave D. I bet their is a PhD in there somewhere, about how many and why members fell away/fall away after a new revelation is given. Let's not forget that many fell away after the Manifesto too.Rob Higginbothamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14002908733806585017noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-13633714977026418742007-09-06T08:29:00.000-05:002007-09-06T08:29:00.000-05:00I read somewhere a while ago (I think it might hav...I read somewhere a while ago (I think it might have been Terryl Givens) that a Jew has a synthesized theology/worldview/concept of God that is perfectly supported by his reading of the Torah/Old Testament alone. A Christian also has a synthesized theology/worldview/concept of God that is perfectly supported by his reading of both the Old and New Testaments together. However, these theologies can often be at odds with each other. The Christian would say that he took the additional information given in the New Testament to better understand the God of the Old Testament.<BR/><BR/>By extension of this concept, Mormons have a synthesized theology/worldview/concept of God based on the Old and New Testament, Book of Mormon, Doctrine & Covenants, Pearl of Great Price, and the teachings of modern prophets. Where other Christians may disagree with their theology, Mormons would say the same thing to them that the other Christians would to the Jews - we are just taking the additional information we have been given to better understand God.<BR/><BR/>One danger for Mormons, who claim to believe in an open cannon, is that they build a cultural or interpretative theology around what they have been given and when new truths are revealed that are at odds with their interpretations, they reject revealed truth - much like Jews reject the New Testament or most Christians reject the Book of Mormon. When Spencer Kimball received the revelation on the Priesthood, I'm sure there were those that left the Church because the new revelation didn't agree with their interpretation or the revelation didn't come in the way they expected.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-7256266852684805362007-09-05T22:55:00.000-05:002007-09-05T22:55:00.000-05:00Great points! The Dead Sea Scrolls have done much ...Great points! The Dead Sea Scrolls have done much to shed light on the connections between the OT and NT.Jeff Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08776493593387402607noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-67282201626568146812007-09-05T19:08:00.000-05:002007-09-05T19:08:00.000-05:00Joseph hit the nail on the head, and beat me to th...Joseph hit the nail on the head, and beat me to the punch.<BR/><BR/>The Book of Mormon does much to "reconcile" the Old and New Testament. So much so, that it reinforces the fact that so much has been <I>removed</I> from the OT and NT to create the illusion of the OT and the NT being at odds with one another. <BR/><BR/>That illusion of the OT and the NT being at odds with each other has been a stumbling block for most of mainstream Christendom.Bookslingerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15077778974473538408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-84108405076301078952007-09-05T12:57:00.000-05:002007-09-05T12:57:00.000-05:00Abinadi was a baller, no doubt. His message of of...Abinadi was a baller, no doubt. His message of of both following the law of Moses and the future Messiah is a perfect bridge for how we read the Old Testament and New Testament, and perhaps more revealing of the teachings of the Old Testament prophets from which Abinadi undoubtably drew.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11048864927797713323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-15465950124731592252007-09-05T09:53:00.000-05:002007-09-05T09:53:00.000-05:00In addition to what you have pointed out in the or...In addition to what you have pointed out in the original post, there may have been an implicit personal attack against Abinadi of him failing to preach glad tidings by condemning them. They could be faulting him for being critical of them, similar to the argument in Alma 21:6.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-17060971581943476702007-09-05T09:31:00.000-05:002007-09-05T09:31:00.000-05:00The Book of Mosiah is so Christ-centered, and uses...The Book of Mosiah is so Christ-centered, and uses such powerful elements of literature to teach the central role of the Messiah Jesus Christ, that anyone who reads it sincerely must recognize that it truly serves as a witness for Jesus Christ in a way that harmonizes beautifully with the Bible. <BR/><BR/>It is complex and rich, but single in its purpose of bringing souls to the Messiah, Jesus Christ.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-40209905184888413702007-09-05T07:59:00.000-05:002007-09-05T07:59:00.000-05:00The story of Abinadi is a powerful example of how ...The story of Abinadi is a powerful example of how the Atonement is the central pillar of the Plan of Salvation. There's all the if's that go with it too. What if Christ hadn't done this? What if He just wanted to say no? What if, what if. The great thing about this, is there's no reason for the if's. Abinadi preached to them the importance of the Ten Commandments. Which seems to be a hot topic today. If these are works of the adversary, why bother with this beautiful story of Abinadi and King Noah? Why tell such a story as this that touches many and leads them to do better with their lives and to follow Christ with much more zeal and effort than before? A good tree does not produce bad fruit. As well as a bad tree does not produce good fruit. The adversary may be subtle and deceptive, he may mix truth with philosophies and sophistries, but he doesn't want to us believe in the Saviour nor follow Him.<BR/>Besides...the priests of Noah were probably wondering why feet were of any importance at all or they just a foot fetish.Rob Higginbothamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14002908733806585017noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-29826173242820189082007-09-05T06:40:00.000-05:002007-09-05T06:40:00.000-05:00Abinadi was a type for Christ in so many cool ways...Abinadi was a type for Christ in so many cool ways such as that one.<BR/>You know, this is my favorite part about the Book of Mormon...the more you read it, the luckier Joseph Smith gets for "making" all this stuff up.JayFlow22https://www.blogger.com/profile/02462190175533227833noreply@blogger.com