tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post6041844350412044607..comments2023-11-02T07:25:45.884-05:00Comments on Mormanity - a blog for those interested in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints: Mitt Romney and the Mormon QuestionJeff Lindsayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08776493593387402607noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-6359263848353164352011-11-17T19:55:48.882-06:002011-11-17T19:55:48.882-06:00Is Huntsman LDS? I like a lot of what he says. A...Is Huntsman LDS? I like a lot of what he says. Anyway, Jeff, I really enjoyed the post. I, too, think it is ridiculous to believe that President Romney would equate to President Monson (within the context of US president, of course). <br />Peace...jackgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-50623670184696219842011-11-16T18:28:45.276-06:002011-11-16T18:28:45.276-06:00Eveningsun,
Your point makes a lot of sense but m...Eveningsun,<br /><br />Your point makes a lot of sense but my problem has always been, I can't agree with either party on more than about half of the issues. For that reason, I usually don't vote by a strict party line.mkprrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13409950642803422998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-6573463041445647912011-11-16T00:42:42.047-06:002011-11-16T00:42:42.047-06:00Okay, how's this:
Any Republican who can get ...Okay, how's this:<br /><br />Any Republican who can get the party's nomination for the 2012 race, would be better than Obama.Bookslingerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15077778974473538408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-14280202327436763172011-11-13T10:42:40.847-06:002011-11-13T10:42:40.847-06:00Bookslinger writes that "Any Republican will ...Bookslinger writes that "Any Republican will be better than Obama."<br /><br />There's a sense in which this is obviously false. I suspect that even Bookslinger can think of some Republican somewhere who, as an individual, would be worse than Obama.<br /><br />I realize, Gunslinger, that you're probably speaking figuratively rather than literally here. I'm just trying to warm up to my point, which is that there's another and more important way in which your statement makes good sense. What I mean is that if you're a Republican, you should always vote for the Republican candidate. (And vice-versa if you're a Democrat.) One thing I can't stand is when people say they vote for the INDIVIDUAL who best represents their values, or seems most competent, or whatever.<br /><br />I say it makes much more sense to vote for the candidate whose PARTY best represents your values. <br /><br />Political parties are a bit like churches in this respect. Individuals can do a certain amount of good <i>qua</i> individuals, but they can do even more good when they band together into a church. There are certainly downsides to being a member of church, starting with the fact that no single church is a perfect fit for a given individual's values and beliefs. Part of being in a church is having to suck it up sometimes and submit to some idea or project one doesn't agree with. Ditto for political parties. In both cases, if people are habitually opting in and out every time they dislike this or that candidate or bishop or whatever, then the organization won't be strong enough overall to achieve its general aims. You've got to pick your team and then stick with it.<br /><br />-- EveningsunAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-21825323595092553542011-11-12T00:00:37.436-06:002011-11-12T00:00:37.436-06:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-40990341336196303672011-11-10T19:51:04.800-06:002011-11-10T19:51:04.800-06:00I hope that Romney is not the GOP candidate. I...I hope that Romney is not the GOP candidate. I'd like to see a _real_ conservative run on the GOP ticket. Romney is too much like McCain, who compromises away far too much.<br /><br />If Romney is the GOP candidate, I'll support him all the way. Any Republican will be better than Obama.Bookslingerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15077778974473538408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-89925774503910100482011-11-09T22:40:45.452-06:002011-11-09T22:40:45.452-06:00To anonymous in post 1: you may be proud to be a D...To anonymous in post 1: you may be proud to be a Democrat now but I wonder how you will feel when the Dem's knives come out against the Church if Romney is the GOP nominee. I hope Harry Reid will not stand by quietly as the Church is daily smeared in the media during the general election.DWnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-26735244477935647312011-11-09T10:20:48.072-06:002011-11-09T10:20:48.072-06:001. Of course Mitt would follow the Prophet, and th...1. Of course Mitt would follow the Prophet, and the church has been getting involved in some political battles.<br /><br />2. The white horse prophecy is being discussed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-246340403670826062011-11-08T21:26:31.807-06:002011-11-08T21:26:31.807-06:00What I find amazing and that is never brought up i...What I find amazing and that is never brought up is the concept of Unrighteous Dominion which I have always taken to mean that no one shall exercise authority over that which they are not in charge of. I think that the Wikipedia article about priesthood does a nice summary:<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priesthood_%28LDS_Church%29<br /><br />If a Mormon were to be elected president of the USA, that is his office and his office solely and not the office of his ecclesiastical leaders.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-27895815899345205342011-11-08T16:54:00.862-06:002011-11-08T16:54:00.862-06:00Nicely done. I hope they use your interview.Nicely done. I hope they use your interview.Middle-aged Mormon Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06250594175961381412noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-247754378490759442011-11-08T00:14:30.010-06:002011-11-08T00:14:30.010-06:00It's not so much the Republican Party per se t...It's not so much the Republican Party per se that is fearmongering about Romney's religiosity, but rather certain Christian sects, which contain many Republicans and Democrats. The Democratic ones will get on board once Romney has it in the bag as the rival candidate against Obama.<br /><br />The political argument against Romney's religion is disingenuous and illogical, in the same way that anyone could somehow determine objectively which Christian-believing denominations are "true Christians", but even to a more absurd level. For to be able to determine which church(es) are purely Christian is also to unequivocally claim which church(es) contain the true gospel itself. There is no objective doctrinal body that could make such a determination. The Council of Nicea continues on in various manifestations throughout modern history, even in the Republican primaries. However, doctrines cannot be debated on a mostly intellectual level, otherwise they cease to be doctrinal. <br /><br />Christ himself said that the way to determine who His followers are is by their fruits, not by some certain popularized interpretation of doctrine that favors a certain camp. The interesting thing about the doctrinal argument is that the LDS Church more literally follows Biblical teaching than does the Nicene Creed, which creed today's evangelicals trumpet as evidence that "Mormons aren't Christians."<br /><br />So now it's being taken up another level and being applied to the political spectrum. I'd say by these heresy-crying denominations' theo-political fruits ye shall also know that they're opportunists, and therefore propagandists. Notice also I'm not denying their Christianity. Their belief is valid. But their politicized bent is misguided, and their criticism of the LDS Church is an un-Christlike act of desperation.Rusty Southwickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15219593571227897865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-86008175263909980262011-11-07T21:04:41.955-06:002011-11-07T21:04:41.955-06:00A lot of people want to downplay the "Mormon ...A lot of people want to downplay the "Mormon question" - but to me it's really simple: <br /><br />If Mitt Romney was Protestant, he would have wrapped up the nomination long ago - and everyone else would be positioning to be his running mate. <br /><br />Really, that's the measure of the anti-Mormon sentiment in the Repblican Party right now. I loathe very few things, relatively speaking, but the sheer hypocrisy of begging for our support when they need it and rejecting us in every other situation is something I really do loathe. <br /><br />As for the possible influence of SLC, that's ludicrous. As was said, Harry Reid is the best example, since he's one of the most powerful politicians in the country and is a Democrat - but Mitt himself is an excellent example. It's more than silly that his record isn't admitted by those who say he'll govern as a Mormon puppet.Papa Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06704974609266088416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-75516056981875422802011-11-07T18:32:55.073-06:002011-11-07T18:32:55.073-06:00The fact that the highest-ranking Mormon official ...The fact that the highest-ranking Mormon official in the nation is Harry Reid makes me proud to be a Democrat. I'd hate to see my own party squabbling over religion the way so many in the GOP are doing right now.<br /><br />As for the fear that Romney would be a theocratic president, I can only say that he sure didn't toe the Church line in Massachusetts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com