tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post8491588868543040551..comments2023-11-02T07:25:45.884-05:00Comments on Mormanity - a blog for those interested in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints: Bringing a Missionary HomeJeff Lindsayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08776493593387402607noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-22332494926526471742015-11-22T16:02:56.528-06:002015-11-22T16:02:56.528-06:00Hello Everybody,
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I'll say...Bookslinger, thanks for the comments. I'll say that bringing my first 3 sons home to the US also posed frustrations. Parents and missionaries need to be ready for that and be proactive if there will be tight deadlines or other complications to face. <br /><br />I think that most of my tips still apply to parents in the US. Several were important in dealing with my son coming home from Nevada, as well as sons returning from Taiwan and Argentina, in addition to this last case in Peru. Remember that there are a lot of parents in nations outside the US who want to see their children come home from missions. This is a global church, of course. As for the option of just sending a missionary to school without a stop at home, that is pretty tough on a family and hope it is rare. Go talk to a mother about the option of not seeing a precious son after his mission and instead, just being content with Skype. But we considered that. We considered other options. But with the demands on my wife for her work as a teacher, we did not have the ability to be in the US between the tiime of his mission and the start of school. And yes, coming home to China was his emphatic choice as well. Not easy, very tiring, but he feels it was worth it, too. We did not talk him into it at all. Jeff Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08776493593387402607noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-29400868964678864572013-09-01T01:45:42.104-05:002013-09-01T01:45:42.104-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Jeff Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08776493593387402607noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-9496782681540766992013-08-31T19:43:52.234-05:002013-08-31T19:43:52.234-05:00Aw come on Jeff. You bollixed up the works by req...Aw come on Jeff. You bollixed up the works by requesting he be sent to a country other than his home country at the end of his mission. If he had just gone from Peru to Appleton or Peru to BYU, everything would have been hunky-dory. <br /><br />But nooo...... you had to have him go to the other side of the world before going "home", making the church's Missionary Travel Department and the Piura mission office go through hoops and do things that they aren't set up to do, and for which they have no SOPs. And the fact that you (I suppose) paid for all those plane tickets, doesn't really give you the right to mess up the work flow of all those other people. <br /><br />You know (or should know) that church employees are worker-bees like employees everywhere (even Western Union) and when asked to do things out of the ordinary or make "special exceptions" things go awry.<br /><br />Ya'll could have Skyped when he got back to the Appleton homestead, or when he got to BYU. And then seen him on one of your semi-annual /annual trips back to the US.<br /><br />I feel sorry for your son, losing all that sleep traveling, the toll that long distance travel takes, the jet lag, etc. <br /><br />It would have been so much easier, and better I think, to have let him use those days of travel and the couple days he spent in China, to instead decompress back in the US, either back in Appleton or in Provo. Going to a new (new to him) place like China is not a way for a missionary to decompress, especially with all that jet lag, and excitement of being in a strange place.<br /><br />So, while your tips are good, they all pretty much apply to the "special circumstance" which was literlaly all *your* doing. :-)<br /><br />Yeah, yeah, I'm sure your son "agreed" to go see you, but there's no way that a newly released missionary is going to turn down a request by his dear parents. He felt obligated, of course. <br /><br />So..... MY recommendations to future missionaries is this: "Please do NOT try to travel to different countries (especially clear on the OTHER SIDE OF THE WORLD) at the end of your mission. Tour your OWN mission if your parents can make it, otherwise go back to your COUNTRY/STATE/STAKE/WARD OF ORIGIN. And if your parents moved while you were gone, try to go back to wherever your 'stuff' was left at."Bookslingerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15077778974473538408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-35660342403412883872013-08-31T13:46:35.081-05:002013-08-31T13:46:35.081-05:00Some familes move while their son is on his messio...<a href="http://www.amazon.com/The-RM-Kirby-Heyborne/dp/B0002CVQJU/ref=nosim" rel="nofollow">Some familes move while their son is on his mession</a> and don't tell him.Bookslingerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15077778974473538408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-48355792300524578152013-08-31T10:19:57.747-05:002013-08-31T10:19:57.747-05:00I served in the Trujillo Peru Mission back in 86-8...I served in the Trujillo Peru Mission back in 86-86. Piura was part of the Trujillo Mission back then. When I came home I managed not to release the travel details to my parents. When I got to the Salt Lake City airport there wasn't a soul there waiting for me. I called up a good friend and he took me home. After two years I walked through the front door to surprise my family. This was a week before Christmas. My mom has never forgiven me.Patricknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-15225448996991650222013-08-31T02:32:25.940-05:002013-08-31T02:32:25.940-05:00Would not have worked to send him to the US first....Would not have worked to send him to the US first. We only have him here for 4 full days before he has to fly back to the US. The point of bringing him home was for us to see him in the brief time before he had to return to BYU. Going to the US first to stay there would have added a lot of expense and erased a big chunk of what little time he had. Jeff Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08776493593387402607noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-12491757681109193612013-08-30T21:08:18.256-05:002013-08-30T21:08:18.256-05:00We recently returned from a senior mission. We wer...We recently returned from a senior mission. We were fortunate in our mission to have a senior couple who were experts on higher education (a former state commissioner) and the mission president made use of their specialized knowledge by having all of the returning missionaries meet with them for counseling concerning their future schooling. It was of great help in getting them right back into school, and would be even more valuable for those who now go straight from high school to missionary service. Maybe couples could be called to visit more than one mission for this purpose. Virginia Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01593983031474262037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-3582047009518703632013-08-30T08:06:44.621-05:002013-08-30T08:06:44.621-05:00Jeff, these are great tips. Of course your experi...Jeff, these are great tips. Of course your experiece living as an expat yourself and having your son join you there makes his return trip more complicated than most.<br /><br />My own trip home from Germany to the US was complicated enough at the time because of flight schedules and then delays that made what could have been an 8 hour trip about 24 hours long!<br /><br />I think your best advice is implied: consider what roadblocks may present themselves well in advance and communicate with the mission (not your missionary) to resolve them well in advance.<br /><br />Glad your son is "home" safe and sound.Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11294214866282354575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-9092893006241546602013-08-30T06:48:11.427-05:002013-08-30T06:48:11.427-05:00Just curious Jeff. Since you are originally from ...Just curious Jeff. Since you are originally from Michigan or lived there for a long time, would it not have been better or easier for your son (and you) to go to Michigan and stay with relatives or friends, and then go to China from the United States, leaving from Michigan? It would have delayed your reunion but might have been easier. <br /><br />Dealing with the South American countries is difficult. I served a state side Spanish speaking mission and we always had "Visa waiters" (missionaries who were going to foreign countries and their visas had not been approved in time for their departure from the MTC). We had more visa waiters that were going to South America than any other country at the time of my mission. It was easier to get to Korea and other parts of Asia than it was to get in to South America. Sometimes some missionaries that were headed to foreign countries had to stay in the MTC longer while waiting for visas because the state side missions could not take them, and it was almost always the ones going to South America.<br />Sometimes I was in a foursome because we had two visa waiters stay with us. As did other pairs. In my area a grandson of President Benson's was a visa waiter and was with us for about two months. He was going to South America. It interesting listening to the grandson talk of growing up with a grandfather who was an Apostle then the church President.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-74127162538319059472013-08-30T04:24:56.446-05:002013-08-30T04:24:56.446-05:00Glad it was easy. It was easy for me also as a mis...Glad it was easy. It was easy for me also as a missionary. But being a parent on the receiving end is a different experience, especially when there are complex travel plans that have to be made but no information is available. <br />Jeff Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08776493593387402607noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-35287665793183616212013-08-29T21:37:17.243-05:002013-08-29T21:37:17.243-05:00Hi Jeff, I'm a returned missionary and I trave...Hi Jeff, I'm a returned missionary and I travelled back home to England from the Singapore Mission. I really can't relate to anything you have spoken about here. Maybe this is because I served back in 2002-2004 and things may have changed now, but all this busy-ness about forms and banks and bank cards was just not part of my missionary experience at all. I didn't have any bank card during my 2-year mission, just relied on the support money each month given out by the mission. There's no reason that my missionary work would require me to be using a bank card! My parents used to send small amounts of cash in letters and parcels (which may have been a little risky, but it worked every time!) which I then exchanged to Malaysian Ringgit. Then details about flying home...I didn't even want to return home, let alone think about any details of flights and airports. My parents met me at Birmingham England airport. Just emailed them my itinerary as soon as I got it (about a week or two before my departure), and flew home. No big deal for me or my parents. I just don't understand the complications that come through on your post on these aspects of being a missionary. (But it sounds like your son had visa entry problems to China, that's a different story). Maybe different missions have different ways of dealing with things. Perhaps as I'm from England, things are different there too. Interesting post, but just doesn't relate to my missionary experience.Duncan D. Horne - the Kuantan bloggerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12693187639452569397noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7139169.post-47273756484347047272013-08-29T20:51:58.999-05:002013-08-29T20:51:58.999-05:00For the power of attorney to be effective, you nee...For the power of attorney to be effective, you need to have it notarized--a witness signature alone is not sufficient.<br /><br />Other than that minor detail, this is terrific advice!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com